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An AMAZON.COM best seller!�What if the question "Does God exist?" proved to be meaningless? What if the very definition of "God" was incoherent? Could you still, in good conscience, believe in something if it was incoherent and meaningless? Would it even be possible to talk about an incoherent and meaningless thing meaningfully? If not, then what consequences would follow from this realization? These are the questions which the branch of philosophy known as ignosticism concerns itself with. Ignosticism: A Philosophical Justification for Atheism examines these questions and delves into the idea that "God" is a type of language-game. Taking a Wittgensteinian view of language, Tristan Vick takes us on a journey from learning theory to semantics to psychology in this philosophical exploration of whether or not the idea of God holds any relevant meaning. Perhaps more controversial still, Vick makes the case that ignosticism, properly understood, can be used as a positive justification for the reasonableness of atheism.
- Sales Rank: #3551289 in Books
- Published on: 2013-07-29
- Original language: English
- Number of items: 1
- Dimensions: 8.00" h x .22" w x 5.25" l, .24 pounds
- Binding: Paperback
- 94 pages
From the Back Cover
What if the question "Does God exist?" proved to be meaningless? What if the very definition of "God" was incoherent? Could you still, in good conscience, believe in something if it was incoherent and meaningless? Would it even be possible to talk about an incoherent and meaningless thing meaningfully? If not, then what consequences would follow from this realization? These are the questions which the branch of philosophy known as ignosticism concerns itself with. Ignosticism: A Philosophical Justification for Atheism examines these questions and delves into the idea that "God" is a type of language-game. Taking a Wittgensteinian view of language, Tristan Vick takes us on a journey from learning theory to semantics to psychology in this philosophical exploration of whether or not the idea of God holds any relevant meaning. Perhaps more controversial still, Vick makes the case that ignosticism, properly understood, can be used as a positive justification for the reasonableness of atheism.
About the Author
Tristan Vick graduated from Montana State University with degrees in English Literature and Asian Cultural Studies. He speaks fluent Japanese and lives in Japan with his wife and daughter. When he's not commuting on the train or teaching English, he spends his time reading, writing, blogging, and eating sara-udon.
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful.
Looking at the big picture
By Jorge Villase�or
Using a logical approach, Tristan Vick answers to the ultimate question: "Does God exist?" by taking a step back and asking: "What do you mean by 'God'?", since rarely do people define God in the same manner. The concept of "Ignosticism", though new to me, is probably the best starting point to a better understanding of why religious fundamentalists are wrong. A clear, well-written, down-to-earth explanation of the concept and its multiple repercussions will give the potential reader an new perspective to the question which atheists and believers seem to take for granted.
I absolutely loved this book, and would definitely recommend it to anyone: atheists, agnostics, and believers.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful.
Thought provoking, but unconvincing.
By jaekyeong moon
* I'm from Korean, so sorry for my awful English.
The reason I bought this book is, as an agnostic seeker, to know more about Ignosticism and Theological noncognitivism. I'm really interested in this position, but there are not very much materials about. In fact, there are few contemporary philosophers in religion who talk about theological noncognitivism(as far as I know, only two; Michael Martin and Kai Nielson). So first time I saw this book, I said, "Oh, great! Now I will learn more about Ignosticism and some philosophical argument for that position."
As it turns out, I did. But at the same time, I'm unconvinced, so I can't recommend this book.
Before criticizing this book, I should mention some good things in book. I generally agree with author's observation about theist's way of defining god, especially when he talk about cultural and psychological influence. that part is well-established and backed by references from professionals like Pascal Boyer. I also like his writing style. It makes me easy to understand his argument, or at least make me think that I understand his argument.
That said, I think main argument of the book fails.
Briefly, main argument of this book is like this.
1) If some concept or definition is about real object, It's description has real link to that.
2) If some concept or definition has real link to that, It should pass the Referential Justification.
3) God concept does not pass the Referential Justification.
4) So, God concept is not about real object.
5) As a result, talking about existence of "God" is meaningless(because it can't exist in real world).
Someone who read this review may be curious about premise 1 and say, what does it mean that "having real link to object?" Well, according to the book, it means that the object which is described by the definition is verified, and so its definition is verified by inspecting the object. This means when you want to say that your definition of x has real link to object x, you must show object x is empirically verified and examine your definition with object x.
But the problem of that reasoning is that there are something that supposed to exist, but can't be empirically verified. One example of that thing is "other minds". When I say "mind", I don't mean some dualistic souls which already assumed the supernatural exist, but mean subjective experience dependent on human brain. I know I have a mind. You also does, because you can experience yours. But how about the others? How can we empirically verify other people's subjective experience? You can hear other people's testimony or examine their brain, but eventually don't know whether other people are just like us or philosophical zombie. So this fact makes other minds don't exist? Unless you are a hard skeptic or solipsist, you don't think so, but justification of that is not empirical, but philosophical. The situation is same when we question about existence of world itself(Is this real? or is everything just illusion?), time, abstract object, causality etc. And because of their non-empirical nature, some their definition is also not empirically derived, and some of it like abstract object is entirely non-empirical.
So there are something that supposed to exist, but can't be empirically verified. And even more, there are something that many philosophers think that exist, but has no "real link" to their definition(like God). I think this fact makes whole book in problem, because it seemed to me that the book's hidden premise is this.
0) If something exist, it can be empirically verified.
And If this is false, then premise 1 is also false, so the conclusion of the formula above is also false. So the author has to whether accept that these concepts are also meaningless to discuss like God, or offer some other reason why God concept is meaningless when other non-empirical, philosophical concepts have meaning. Or, he can just admit God concept is, at least, as meaningful as those concepts.
But, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, and he is totally right. But there is not much material about this topic and vitually no material about this topic discussed by professional philosopher, I think I can't know who's right even in future.
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